I like how a female is more likely to get flack for not liking a character (especially one of the same gender) and accused of self-hatred or misogyny than a male would. I also like how females are more likely to overlook if the person hating on a female character is a guy because apparently focusing on alleged self-hating and misogyny with females in fandom takes precedence over a dude saying something possibly sexist and focusing on witch-hunting self-hating females is more important.
"Boy, I'm really glad the new mystery character to be introduced into the series won't be a female because I SHUDDER TO THINK of all the supposed HATE and MISOGYNY she'll get from the FEMALES IN THIS FANDOM," I say to myself at a hypocritically backwards attempt at feminism in which I blatantly assume that most other female members of my own gender are inherently hateful and misogynistic towards their own gender while self-righteously putting myself on a pedestal to judge my own sex and make the assumption that females are inherently out to hurt one another.
That. That right there is pretty much fucked up in it's own right. I see a -lot- of that in fandom with girls who apparently
think they're doing some sort of social good by making such judgements when it's actually pretty judgmental and derogatory and you end up contradicting yourself by accusing your gender of all being self-haters and misogynists while making yourself out to be somehow exempt or 'above' such behavior just because not everyone has the same taste in female characters as you.
"Ugh, i hate how these fucking bitches are so full of self-hate and internalized misogyny i bet they'll all hate this new female character just because she's female ugh fuck my gender ugh females are so fucking sexist ugh ugh ugh."
And yet you're the one making that assumption by openly saying that you expect other females to inherently act that way and be venomous, vile, creatures by nature towards their own gender. I also find it laughable that you apparently think men don't engage in such behavior. I've heard things like,
"christ, that faggot spends so much time on his fucking hair what a shit"
"he spends too much time on his appearance that's disgusting"
"what a fucking meathead"
"fucking jockbag with his fucking sports"
"that guy is such a pussy for crying like that at the concert"
"i bet hes got a car like that to compensate for something lol"
"all steve dates is ugly chicks what the fuck is he blind"
Newsflash, if you're a female who thinks people tearing each other down for shallow reasons is solely limited to females
, you're pretty incorrect. And you're pretty much the same thing that you claim to condemn so much.
I've also noticed that, say, a 13-14 year old girl is more likely to get shit for not liking a female character or not liking a female for getting in the way of her "OTP" than a grown man making a comment about how the female Ghost Rider sucked because "a woman should be a thing of beauty" or she apparently "failed" as a character otherwise (yes, I've actually seen these comments, except, you know, people didn't seem to think it was problematic).
I think hating a character over something as silly as non-canon OTPs is stupid at the best of times, and there's a lot I don't like about younger kids, but at least when they're 13 or 14 or 15 or whatever they have time to grow up
and learn otherwise. Some behavior is less excusable than others, but I've seen more young girls getting flack or ganged up on by so-called "protectors of female characters" for not liking a female character even when it has nothing to do with OTP or her "getting in the way of yaoi" or even her gender
than a full-grown man
on this site or others making derogatory or dismissive comments about women and these "protector of female characters" don't have nearly half as much to say about it. Because why focus on a grown, adult male
talking shit about women when you could spew for endless hours about how everyone else with a vagina is an inherently sexist monster and how a 13-year-old girl deserves to get physically beaten or have her profile bombarded with insults by said "protectors of female characters" (ironically enough) because she doesn't like the same female character as you? (this isn't to say that I haven't seen guys get called out for it, because I certainly have, and justifiably so. But when you're a self-proclaimed female that's apparently looking to "empower" by stalking dissenters online that are usually in the early teen group or females that just have different taste in fictional characters than you while completely disregarding the openly sexist actions and words of full grown men
you've already fucked up. Especially when you become more openly hostile to a female who doesn't like a particular fictional female character for whatever reason than a male of the same age group and fandom who similarly doesn't like the same female character).
Which is another thing. Some girls apparently go off the handle at anyone who doesn't like a female character for something, but I've noticed a fair number of chicks who won't care what's said about female characters in general until
-her- favorite female is "attacked" or "insulted" and then flings out how "sexist" her fandom is or how "misogynist" it is. In one instance I've seen someone on a Homestuck Secrets blog accuse Andrew Hussie of being a "misogynist" for killing off their favorite "psychologically complex three-dimensional" female character. Remember, this is character he created in the first place.
The post can also be seen here: [link]
and another case where someone accused the HTTYD fandom of being "sexist" because one person said they didn't think either Astrid or Ruffnut were good for Hiccup. They didn't say, "i hate the fucking bitches i want hiccup alll 2 myself" or "i hate them becuz theyre gurlz," just "I don't think either character is a good fit."
Look, I really liked Ruffnut as a character, but I don't automatically assume someone is sexist just because they don't like the same female character as me.
And, seriously, as much as I like her character and design, I don't really entertain the idea of her and Hiccup as a couple either and I can sort of see why someone would say that. It's called "preference," a word which here means "not everyone likes the same shit that you like."
Yes, I can acknowledge that some level of misogyny among women exists in fandoms, but Ill also say that I've seen more "witch hunting" for alleged "female misogynists" in fandom and unfounded bullshit accusations of "self-hating sexist females" than I've actually seen real cases of. If anything, I find the fact females are so hair-trigger ready to be self-righteous and readily accusatory of other females in fandom to be pretty sexist in itself. And it's bullshit that girls have to jump on other girls at the drop of a pin for not preferring or liking a certain fictional female character or giving her shit because "she didn't give enough reasons for not liking this character so I have every right to assume it's misogynist and can accuse her of such."
Bullshit. No you don't. What you're doing is vilifying your own gender and being pretty hateful yourself. Secondly, you think only females do that sort of thing? Men can get pretty shallow and shitty with each other, so I'm not sure why you're holding females to one "magical princess good girls everyone loves everyone or else" standard and vilifying anything less for stupid reasons when you don't even hold the same standard for males.
To add to that, I've seen instances of girls "bragging" about how they're a female that prefers and draws hetero and femmeslash and are somehow "less shallow" or "more feminist" or progressive because of it. You know how ridiculous it is when teenage girls (or anyone) claim they're automatically "gay rights" activists because they like or draw yaoi? Yeah, this is pretty much the same thing. I've encountered yaoi fans I really didn't like or care for as well as pairings I didn't care for, but to shame one group of girls for liking one thing or making those who prefer one to the other seem more "shallow" than you just because of their preference is, to me, nonsensical in this case (I've also encountered het fans and femmeslash fans guilty of similar stupidity and the idiocy isn't exactly limited specifically to one group either). You can like all of these things or prefer one to the other and still be a feminist so there's no justifiable reason to put one down or exalt the other. They're not any more or less "shallow" than you, they just have different preferences.
And most of the people (especially girls) who didn't like the characters I liked had reasons that had nothing
to do with OTPs, their gender, or the character in question "getting in the way" of anything. Imagine that.
(Additionally, I've noticed some girls take to "stabbing back" at the person who said they didn't like the same female characters by leaving insulting comments or messages on stuff that had to do with the character or the character preferences of the person (usually a girl) who said they didn't like the other person's character despite the fact they accused the other girl of being "fucking sexist." Derp. That's now how empowerment works, hypocrite). I actually had an instance where someone made multiple false accounts to leave hostile notes and comments towards me because I said I didn't like a particular character from a fandom and they called me "sexist" before leaving more threatening messages, wishing me physical harm, leaving insulting messages on deviations for a female character whose popularity rivaled that of their favorite character's, insulting female characters they knew I was a fan of to "get back" at me, and leaving a number of blatantly homophobic slurs towards me in between it all.
So no. I don't believe a lot of you so-called "protectors of female characters" are what you make yourself out to be, and I think a lot of you are quite venomous, readily hostile, and judgmental towards you own gender (or others you perceive to be female online or elsewhere even when you don't actually know) and have piss-poor "hair-trigger" excuses for acting the way you do with poor justification for what's evidently your own internalized issues.
But to jump back to the subject of female characters, if someone else I don't know doesn't like the same female characters as me, I just assume they have a different preference.
If you're someone whose mind automatically sends off an "omg sexist bitch with self-hate and sexism issues!111" alarm bell when someone else (especially a female) says they don't like or prefer a character (especially a female one) you like, then you're the one with the internalized problem, not them.
When people tell me they don't prefer a female character I like in normal conversation or inoffensively stating an opinion?
My reaction to most of these the vast majority of the time: Oh, okay.
Sometimes it can really be that simple.