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OK, so the big giveaway is going to be running for a while yet!

In the meantime, here's a chance to win a few points!

Something i've been meaning to do but only recently was I prompted by Atlantien1.

All you need to do is this:
Browse deviantART and find a piece of art (or more than one) you REALLY like. Something that means something to you!
Then simply make a journal featuring that piece (or pieces) of art. You could even say a few words about that piece and the artist?
Remember to comment below with a link to your journal!
Here's mine: [link]

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fat girls with big boobs don't count??

Journal Entry: Tue May 21, 2013, 4:06 PM
Call me a "Chubby chaser" or whatever but this is my view on fat shaming!

So ive heard this opinion tooo many times now! Apparently if you're a fat chick with naturally large breasts it doesn't count as having "big boobs". HAHA what the fuck kind of logic is this!?!??!?! BAD NEWS FOR YOU Sunshine! Tits are literally made of "fat"... that's what they are.. just sayin! xD and this is just one of a whole sea of retarded insults I see towards beautiful voluptuous woman! >:C (especially over there in America it seems)

okay serious thing though... I can't wait till all these 14, 15, 16 year olds grow up and suddenly get that feeling of inner hypocrisy when they realize big girls arnt all that bad. In terms of personal preference your always going to get guys who lean more towards the thinner..perhaps more petite body shape. And this is nothing to get upset about! Mark my words! Some ""men"" go crazy for YOU aswell!

There is nothing wrong with your belly! or your Thighs! or your Boobs! (even if they might not be as perky as you want them to be) There is nothing wrong with enjoying food either! Jus't don't let it get out of hand though! being overweight is a real thing. and can get quite serious... But people who think that a little pudge and a slightly petruding muffin top is overweight are fucking idiots! xD Also some people are just born this way..whever it be genes or high metabolism or whatever..  

I can't stand fat shaming! and I wish it would stop! Far too many times ive seen a beautiful girl (even with a really pretty face) just have their self esteem completely obliterated by these assholes. But then I remember... I wasn't too dis similar at "That age" ... I can remember at times saying the same sort of things.. pehaps not as bad but I want to slap my younger self for thinking that way! >:C ... All I have to say now is that you girls should just fight back by not letting it get to you! Ignore what the mass media thinks aswell because that's all bollocks! There are SOOOO MANY guys out there who would find you beautiful! even if you don't have tits and just have a cute big pear bottom! >//w//> (and not just big black dudes lolJK)

What is this fascination with "flat Stomachs" anyway ???" Its not that I don't find them attractive... I just don't get why they are a big deal for so many people :S and the Thigh gap??? HAHA are you actually serious??? how is that attractive..I might be sounding bias here now but WHAT!?! lol

Also this thinspiration thing??? ... yeah it can go to fucking hell :3

All body types have the potential to be beautiful! (as long as its healthy!) Variety is the gift of life! We are fools to not see this as something great !!! I was with a thin(ish) yet  hourglass(ish) girl for years myself! since I lean more towards the bigger side that just goes to show its what's on the inside that counts ;P All you women are just fucking gorgeous!!! ;w;

Now I wish more girls (if any) actually found chubby guys attractive... (perhaps even SEXUALLY attractive... that would be amazing)  ;n; ... but that's a different subject

also sorry about my terrible grammar :I

~ Jack!

How to: Margin + Padding

Wed May 22, 2013, 4:19 AM
For this tutorial series I am explaining different elements you can create or modify with the help of CSS. The level of experience that is needed to be able to understand the tutorials can differ and will be in no order.
However I will try to explain the things as simple as possible. Upcoming questions should be left in a comment directly to this blog so that people with similar problems can look them up later as well.

----

The tutorial series is based on the gruze-structure of journals. If you are still using the old structure or have a journal installed that used it, things won’t work the same way like explained below.
For simple skins the old structure is fine, but the more features you add, the more I would recommend using the gruze-structure. You can look up the differences here: [link]  






It seems like a lot of people are struggling with the usage of margin and padding. In the end it doesn’t matter how you get to the result you want, but the more you understand what is going on behind, the cleaner your code will be and the less you need to fix it here and there.
It also prevents you from going crazy, because the code is so bloated that you aren’t able to find something special later again.



The Basics


Padding and margin are essential and work no matter what browser, no matter what resolution, no matter whatever. They are basic CSS and are responsible for spacing within your designs.

There is this one thing you should always keep in mind:
Margin is for the outside, padding is for the inside!


That means that margin moves everything away from an element and padding adds some invisible fluffy cotton to make things bigger than they actually are (like in your bra or pants).

Sounds confusing? Well take a look at the image below, it should help you to understand what I mean.

Boxmodel by `ginkgografix
The light blue arrows are the spacing that can be in-/decreased with the help of padding. They only work between the border and the content of an element – no matter if those are visible or not.
The dark blue arrows are the spacing that can be in-/decreased with the help of margin. They will move other elements away or get them closer together.



What does it mean for our journal



What you see here is a regular journal without any extra CSS code. There is just the plain text and a part of that is wrapped in a p-tag.
Looking at it without backgrounds, images etc it looks like nothing happened here, right?
Wrong!

Bild1 by `ginkgografix



With the help of Firebug (or similar tools) we can take a look behind the visible. These are just a few examples. Everything purple is padding, everything yellow is margin.
Those are default settings by dA – and the reason why some of your designs might not look like they should even though you didn’t change anything.


Bild2 by `ginkgografix
(highlighting .text)


Bild3 by `ginkgografix
(higlighting .gr-top .gr)


Bild4 by `ginkgografix
(highlighting a paragraph)


As you can see there is already quite a bit of margin and padding involved. For example by default .text has this defined padding: 15px 15px 37px 33px;, which explains why the space at the left side is always bigger than on the right side.

For .gr-top .gr we already have padding: 0 64px 4px 8px;.

And the p-tag we used comes with a margin as well. While the values above are defined by dA, the values for the p-tag (like for any other basic tag) is defined by HTML itself.
Because of that you won’t be able to look up the default settings with the help of Firebug. Those values are kind of universal and won’t be mentioned extra.

It’s like when you use em, i, b or anything else like that. They all come with special pre-defined characteristics.
At [link] you can find a list of some elements and what is defined for them for HTML 4 (I haven’t checked how accurate it is though).



What to keep in mind


Some things you should remember every time you work with margin or padding. Can be a lifesaver sometimes!

  • You can work with negative values for margin to decrease the space between certain elements, but not for padding. 

  • If you define a height/width and add a padding browsers will act different. For Firefix the final height/width will be the defined one + the padding.
    In contrast to that will the Internet Explorer mainly care for the height/width value and move your content within that given space.

    Example:
    You have defined a height of 100px and a width of 100px. For the top and bottom you have 10px, while for the sides you have 15px.

    That means for FF your element gets a height of 120px (100+10+10) and for the width you get 130px (100+15+15). For IE it will both stay 100px.

    To avoid this problem and to have a similar result everywhere try to avoid height/width value in combination with padding. Instead just work with padding to bloat the element until you get the dimensions that are needed.

  • Margin and padding are fundamental for coding your layout, but it should be used wisely, always depending on the elements you are working with.

  • When working with padding and fixed dimensions always make sure that your elements like image (which come with fixed dimensions as well) still will fit!




Examples



Below are some simple examples of how you can modify your elements with the help of margin and padding.

For all examples we work within the content area only and use the following HTML code:
<h1>Lorem ipsum dolor</h1>
<p>sit amet, consetetur sadipscing elitr, sed diam nonumy eirmod tempor invidunt ut labore et dolore magna aliquyam erat, sed diam voluptua. </p>
At vero eos et accusam et justo duo dolores et ea rebum.
<blockquote>Stet clita kasd gubergren, no sea takimata sanctus est Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet. </blockquote>


Without any extra work done by us, it will look like this:

Bild5 by `ginkgografix




Example 1



For our first example we increase the spacing for the headline for the top and bottom. That way we make sure that no element will get squeezed to it, no matter how the HTML code is structured.
Also we add a border and move the actual text about 5px away from it. Otherwise it would be directly next to each other.

For blockquote we decide that it should fill the entire width of our journal and get the result with the help of negative margin. Additionally we increase the spacing for the top.
Remember those padding values for the left and right side from .text? Those are the ones we have been working with here to make sure the blockquote goes from one side to the other.
That’s why it is always good to know or to look up such default settings.


Bild6 by `ginkgografix

The code we are using:
h1{
margin: 20px 0;
padding: 0 0 0 5px;
border-left: 5px solid #16598f;}

blockquote{
background: #16598f;
color: #fff;
padding: 10px;
margin: 50px -15px 0 -33px;}




Example 2



Here we unify the overall layout a bit more. First of all we define a new padding for .text to get equal spacing for all four sides.
Afterwards we decrease the bottom spacing for the headline, so that the actual text comes a bit closer. There is no visual gap now anymore, but therefore we have that border.

We also remove the outer spacing of the paragraph and the blockquote, so that they both align with the other elements. But to still give the blockquote a bit more exposure and to stand out, we add a border and move the content via padding a bit more to the inside.

Bild7 by `ginkgografix

The CSS code:
.text{padding: 30px;}

h1{
margin: 0 0 -15px 0;
border-bottom: 2px solid;}

p{
margin: 0;}

blockquote{
margin: 0;
padding: 30px;
border: 1px solid #16598f;}




Example 3



For our last example we make the headline a bit more prominent. We increase the spacing for the top and the bottom, but also make sure that the border won’t stick to the text. That way the actual text stands out a bit more than usually.

We narrow the paragraph so that it will always be the smallest part and looks centered. Similar for blockquote. It is already moved from the sides of our journal by default, but additionally we give it more spacing at the top and use only a little padding between the actual content and the border here.

Bild8 by `ginkgografix

The CSS code:
h1{
margin: 30px 0 20px 0;
padding: 0 0 10px 0;
border-bottom: 2px solid;}

p{
margin: 20px 80px;}

blockquote{
margin-top: 20px;
padding: 5px;
border: 3px solid #16598f;}



As you can see the spacing between elements can make a big difference already and the results can be easily modified. Just change a value here and there and you often get a totally different layout. Mix that with fancy colors and nice backgrounds and there you go with your new sexy journal design.




Inspiration


Here are some examples of different journal skins. Decide on your own if margin/padding was used right or if it could have been done better.

 








Have any questions or don't understand something?
Please leave a comment directly to this blog so that people with similar problems can look them up later as well.

If there are certain things you want me adress the next time, either leave a comment here as well or note me directly.

SPECIAL FEATURE 05 ... Part B

Journal Entry: Wed May 22, 2013, 8:24 AM
 

:iconspreadmoreloveplz:  Unfortunately I can't mention all here, but I send all my friends and watchers a lot of hugs :iconspreadmoreloveplz:



... and a special thanks to those who keep up with even the loyalty with my photography ...



Please give all of them your attention, , comment and watch!









































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. saccades .
I breathe shallowly, my thighs ache, my heart pumps irregularly and hard to a musician whom I cannot hear; I stop and shift my weight and that of you.
Absent and then present yet again, visitations to the possessed; "You look beautiful" said with the face map of humorous in a darkened room, followed by a kiss and the sound of slippers exiting.
The number "31" has taken on a mysterious importance baring no significance no matter what numerological technique I have applied.
"Disappointment" a cudgel, a denial, a rapid form of dismissal to a category of the previously experienced and no longer desired; there is no possible way to apply it as a motivator or potential reward, its body set cannot be isolated to a limited facial group of muscle flows and lines.
Reviews, critiques and comments as
CoraxiansChapter one

Gray had concluded that it had been a terrible accident to have befallen the young lieutenant after a thorough investigation by the Engineering crew it was deemed that a faulty rack had been put in place when the cargo hold was constructed.

As Gabriel read the report he had to admit that Travis was thorough and seeing no fault in what the man had to say he filed it and then sent a message of condolence to Davros’s family.

The investigation had taken a couple of weeks and in that time not only had the Tundra mapped a few new star charts for the Alliance but also that his relationship with T’shlar was now common knowl




my last work



SPECIAL FEATURE 05 ... Part A

Journal Entry: Wed May 22, 2013, 7:35 AM
 

:iconspreadmoreloveplz:  Unfortunately I can't mention all here, but I send all my friends and watchers a lot of hugs :iconspreadmoreloveplz:



... and a special thanks to those who keep up with even the loyalty with my photography ...



Please give all of them your attention, , comment and watch!






















:thumb372026173:
























my last work



Literature Community Chat Discussion

Wed May 22, 2013, 10:00 AM
A few days ago we had a chat to discuss community issues and solutions (see the original journal for details). Huge thanks to everyone who came and raised awesome points!

It took 45 minutes for the volume of talk to max out Sta.sh Writer's character limit and this chat went for two more hours, so I'm just going to summarize the key discussion points, starting with big actionables for #CRLiterature and for the community.

I've put the chat stuff lower down as it's denser: the outside bullet is the issue, and the inside bullet is possible solutions (not necessarily in order, each point is really a response to the original issue). There is a lot to think about in there, but feel free to pick and choose the issues you care most about. :)

Sorry for leaving a lot of stuff out, but I hope you guys are too busy figuring out how best to act on what we discussed to pay too much attention to that. Also, feel free to re-raise issues in the comments here! And check out :star:s for potential solutions.


#CRLiterature

  • More educational opportunities—publishing, writing for fun, writing as a career, etc. (We do have a Project Educate week on Story Planning coming up, so stay tuned!) Basically something inclusive that doesn't end up centered on one group or another. Don't just educate about writing, educate about interacting with the community. And, while we're at it, more critique chats!
  • Better support for new writers—#Expose-Lit is out there, but as the 'official' literature hub we should have more of that going on.
  • Better explanation of what you can do as a member of the group. In addition to posting your news, we can also help you host a chat event or offer contest prizes/judging. People haven't really taken advantage of this, though. You don't have to be an admin to contribute!

Community

  • PROMOTE #CRLiterature! If you have friends who are interested in the literature community, please get them to watch #CRLiterature; if you run a literature group, please consider affiliating (after reading our guidelines on the home page) and link your members to communitywide blogs like this one—and post your news. We had about 30 people attend the chat, and that was great, but it would have been even better to see more new faces.
  • Going with the above, favorite/comment when news articles (e.g. FotoFriday :eyes:) are posted and share them in your journal or your chat. Both are needed to get these to the footer for maximum visibility. Also, participate in contests and prompts when they happen! We know it's not easy to think of something all the time, but if there isn't return on an activity, there's no reason to keep doing it.
  • Be proactive. Do you have an idea for an event you'd like to see? Don't expect someone else to think of it—it's your baby. Note the group if you need help organizing it or if you just need a place to do it.

Chat Discussion

  • `MagicalJoey: How does one go about offering support to those newer/younger poets whose only support structure is their little friend who thinks that all their work is great?

    • `PinkyMcCoversong: I like to use the sandwich method. The bread is something nice, or a compliment -- you have a layer of bread at the top and bottom of your critique. In the middle you have meat and veggies, the really important stuff that might be hard to take, and then you cushion it with more bread.
    • *LadyBrookeCelebwen: I tend to go read the person's profile page first. If they're nice and polite to other people, I'm more willing to try than if their first comment on the page is about how mean so and so was and that they need to go off and die. And I agree with `PinkyMcCoversong, if they're not here to improve, I'm not going to force critique on them.
    • =Lucy-Merriman: I think tempering encouragement with critique and, most importantly, examples of good writing. A young writer needs to develop their taste.
    • ^Beccalicious: There was talk of someone trying to revive the #Adopt-A-Writer programme, which could help. (:star: you can try noting `nycterent if you're interested in taking over this group!)
    • ~softlikewhispers: I think this is more related to the individual than to the literature community, so to say.... I believe if a person is on dA writing and wants to hear a truthful opinion, he or she will know where to go.
    • =SilverInkblot: I've adopted a policy of not giving critique unless asked, or unless given to writers that are well established in the community/ that I know won't bitch (too much :P)
    • `PinkyMcCoversong: I think that if we focus on the people who give us crap for helping them, we're not using our time wisely at all. And it widely discounts the kids who ARE being receptive to feedback.
  • =OHiNeedTea: I'm sorta concerned about the interaction between writers on dA because I just find it difficult to get much of a response from people...even when I try to just start up some kind of conversation with people it just fizzles out because most people don't seem to care about anything that isn't themselves or their writing :(

    • `PinkyMcCoversong: I know that I take longer to respond to intensive critiques, and a lot of the time I stew in them and then just say thank you, this well be helpful in my revision. I find that defending my choices as a writer is usually unhelpful, you know?
    • =futilitarian: I also think that it's part of the dA thing. I've always always had to give a lot more than I get, comment wise.
    • ~K47454k1: Personally I try not to respond heavily to critique as a matter of grace. It's too easy to get into the pitfalls of interaction where it's easier to just read the thing say thank you offer to return the favor and let the feedback percolate.
    • :devjamberrysong:: I feel like there always needs to be a lot of questions on both sides for a critique to be really engaging. If a person comes in and pounds the writer with just their impressions but doesn't ask any questions, they might not be answering the questions the writer needs to be asking.
    • ^NicSwaner: The source of this problem is about how active the readers are and how willing they are to be engaged in someone else's work, which lately, people are waiting for the work to come to them in the form of their message centers, features, DD's and things of the sort. I feel that as useful as the message center is to everybody, it makes them hide behind it as well.
    • ~BrokenTales: Is there some consensus that long critiques might be overwhelming to the author? ((Answers: leaning yes.)
    • =futilitarian: If I'm planning a total overhaul and someone's nitpicking details, it's annoying. If the critique is pitched at the right level for where I'm at with the piece then it's awesome.
    • ~Tense: I think long critiques do in more time what a live discussion could do in muchhh less :/ (:star: Want to hold a critique chat? See above for how to do that!). I think as well critiquers want to know their efforts are appreciated, and I think it can be hard to express that as a receiver.
    • ^Beccalicious: A lot of chat regulars are quite happy to have impromptu crit sessions too, as long as the person asking is willing to give a bit too.
    • :star: I'm planning to do a guide on turning critique into a dialogue (from both sides). Thoughts welcome, and remember that we invite news submissions!


  • =Lucy-Merriman: Alright, basically, I'm concerned about a few of the lit groups--particularly #adopt-a-writer and #Writers-Workshop, because they both used to be really standout groups, and now they're kinda limping along like a half-dead lizard. Should we attempt to revitalize these groups, or have people just moved on to other groups?

    • =futilitarian: I think there's got to be an impetus on us all to note the admins of those groups and offer to help out, though.
    • ^neurotype: I think admins also need to be better about backup, there's this attitude of 'this is my baby' which makes it really hard for others to assist.
    • *LadyBrookeCelebwen: Real life is a huge problem. And part of me says that in the long run, it's hard to keep things alive.
    • :star: `IrrevocableFate's Love dA Lit series lists groups that need help, and you can crosspost journals to #CRLiterature!
    • :star: Also think about what you're doing with your group: =Lucy-Merriman mentions #House-of-Playwrights as a great genre-specific group; other prompt-specific ones like #ScreamPrompts have had a lot of success, too. If you're only using groups for exposure, don't expect a lot of return.
    • =EclecticQuill: If an experienced writer founds a group with a good team of admins, then they wouldn't need to devote massive amounts of time to it.


  • ~Tense: People complain about fragmentation in the community, but I think it's something that should be embraced. It's pretty obvious that people throughout the community want different things from their experience of the site, so in my opinion the goal should be to help likeminded people find each other rather than to try and make changes to attitudes on any large scale.

    • ^neurotype: This has been a theme a few times: casual vs serious writers. The serious writers need to not assume everyone wants the sharp stick of critique jammed up their arse, and the casual writers need to not expect the serious writers to tone it all down. (casual like 'oh I just write to get my thoughts out' - closer to journaling - serious like really cares about the craft)
    • ^Beccalicious: That's kind of what we want out of #CRLiterature—it is supposed to be a "see what's out there in lit for you" and hopefully the appeal reaches to different people—which is why we want to really encourage groups and individuals to CROSS POST THEIR JOURNALS :star:
    • *LadyBrookeCelebwen: How do you get a sense of unity and common ground for everyone though? Not everyone is coming to lit for the same reason, and quite frankly, it'd be like expecting everyone in any other group to have a sense of unity.
    • =futilitarian: If everyone in this room participated in one awesome lit group and entered one contest a month and posted one awesome forum thread a month and suggested one DD a month, the lit community would be in pretty good shape, imo. I think those things are ways of promoting the community and getting it visible and out there as much as about fostering a sense of community. (:star: ^Beccalicious and I are pretty dry on notes. Seriously, I get 5-10 a week maximum.)
    • `PinkyMcCoversong I'd like to see fewer contests and more challenges/prompts.
    • ^Beccalicious: I am a little hesistant about using contests to "entice" the community into doing things. At the time they work well but as soon as they are over, the incentive is gone and everything goes back to white noise.
    • ~BrokenTales: contests with critiques as prizes have a little more potential, but only if the winner is of the kind to engage with the critiquer.
    • ~Tense: I kind of think making use of the chat is key.
    • *toxic-nebulae: If you've just started out and aren't sure whom to watch, I'd suggest looking at the galleries/watch lists of anyone who comments on your pieces, or watches you, since chances are they have the same type of thing.

  • `PinkyMcCoversong: I focus a lot of my energy on providing information and resources for writers interested in publishing. I'm wanting to know if this is helpful to the larger community, and whether we need more, and if people in general know where to find this kind of information on site.

    • ^neurotype: Beccalicious mentioned this earlier, why don't we make a bigger deal about good advice? :P
    • =EclecticQuill: The problem is, that 99.9999% of the time, the message stops with you...because those that hear it don't pass it on.
    • ^Beccalicious: Why aren't people faving, commenting and spreading the word on good articles anymore? We spend a lot of time planning things like our PE weeks and then when an article has spent a long time being put together, its sad to see it garner 5 favs and 1 comment. :star: +FAV/COMMENT PLEASE.
    • `HaveTales-WillTell All we can do is encourage our friends to pass stuff on. If a few do, it keeps going: like a nuclear reaction that just won't catch, but doesn't quite fizzle out either.  :nerd:
    • (General consensus: For those of us who are interested in publishing, being able to find accurate resources easily would be great. Here's a good starting point. Also, *SadisticIceCream, `apocathary, #Lit-Source.)
    • =doughboycafe: A hub would be great, or, of there already is one (I kind of feel like Love dA Literature is great for that). But also a realistic couple of articles about publishing. I agree with a lot of comments that publishing is great, but also writing because you like it is great. Perhaps it would be good to discuss the fact that publishing isn't the end all be all, but a great goal if you want to pursue it...and then...how to be ready to publish. Because I also feel like besides knowing how to find good places to sell yourself, there are a lot of steps that lead up to even being ready to submit.


  • *LadyBrookeCelebwen: I wonder if in our quest to fix dA Lit, we're running off a lot of people. It's fine that a lot of us want critiques and detailed comments but I'm not sure that openly complaining about comments that are just "I love this", for example, is the best way to go about it. I know that we want to fix things, but I worry about driving off people that don't want to hardcore invest in it.

    • =futilitarian: I don't think that's the aim and I don't see how it will be the effect of making the lit community tighter.
    • ^neurotype: I think the issue is that people want more critique, but it gets phrased as 'I don't like what I'm getting now' sometimes.
    • =SilverInkblot: I don't think the complaint there is about casual commentary—the complaint is about the lack of anything aside from casual commentary.
    • ~Tense: I think we should encourage people to be more communicative about what they want in general.
    • =doughboycafe: I think it's pretty natural to want just a sentence or two about *why* someone liked something, even if it's a comment on visual art. But it's not as though a three word comment should be discarded. Still it seemed to me like the problem was that lit community members wanted more of an effort from other lit community members. It's really easy to tell people what you want. You can just put it in the artist's comment and ask if certain things are working or not working.
    • ^NicSwaner: Maybe the problem lies with the anticipation for feedback and high expectations that aren't satiated?
    • (Some commentary on feeling like you don't deserve critique because you don't give it out.) :star: Don't forget the Lit Forum's monthly crit thread, and that you can post in the Thumbshare Forum! Easy ways to find people who say they want critique if you don't know anyone particular already.
    • ~Tense: I think specifically asking someone for critique implies that you really value it.
    • =OHiNeedTea: The only time I really feel annoyed about a very short comment is when it's supposed to be an exchange and I write a mac off detailed critique sandwich and then I get "I like this, there's nothing I'd change" in return... because I always think that's not true, they're just being nice! :star: Don't be afraid to ask that people return a critique, maybe by note if you're shy.
    • ^Beccalicious: Also I often think people think critique giving has to be a 4000 word essay, when sometimes a few pointers can go just as long.
    • (Discussion of #theWrittenRevolution's successful practice of requiring members to submit a critique when they send a deviation to the group gallery. Also, questions for critiquers to respond to specfiically.)




  • ~BrokenTales: This might sound arrogant (it probably is), but I do feel that journal/group features get thrown around like candy with doing much good. A little exposure, maybe a comment from an onlooker (maybe), but other than that nothing of benefit for the author. I would like to see more features that have at least some feedback for the author attached. Can we encourage this?


    • ~BrokenTales: Well, if we agree that it should be this way, we could lead by example. Perhaps if someone asks for advice on a contest, or feature lists, or just generally chatting, we can try and encourage a little description when they feature things.
    • `PinkyMcCoversong: I wonder if the scheduling thing will help this. :star: Hey, beta testers! Try scheduling your posts!
    • ~Tense: As for the features thing, I think if your features were thoughtful and regular, people would keep coming back to see what you were sharing. The trick really is for individuals to make their profiles somewhere worth visiting and exploring writing from, as opposed to just hoping everyone will improve their features, which is just not realistic.
    • ^Beccalicious: I discussed with someone in the journal about people making better use of their journals and artists comments to sell their pieces to the reader.

Discussion Questions

  • Do you think the topics covered are things we can or need to change?
  • What do you think you can do as an individual to improve the community?
  • Is there a topic NOT discussed here you feel needs addressing?


Small Raffle for 1,000 pageviews today

Journal Entry: Tue May 21, 2013, 7:07 PM

This is a small and quick Raffle for saying thank you for the 1,000 Page views. I feel generous today and just want to say Thank you :iconcraiplz:



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80 :points: and a quick sketch



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:bulletgreen: Must favourite This Journal, that way i can keep up who participated



:bulletgreen: Must comment on this journal the secret word which is "Frostii" and tell me one thing you like about my art that you like or don't like. that way i know you have read the rules and you that are awsome for being honest and i can improve. :icondatfaceplz:



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I will use random.org to be fair here.



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:iconamysowyplz: Good luck my sweethearts  :heart:



I would like to address something I have been seeing as of late here and on other sites. Artists who are asking if someone would commission them if they were to offer commissions and if so, how much should they charge or how much are they willing to pay?

   I say this with a real heart to all artists, but that is a foolish line of questions.

   Really. I have been there. I even did those myself. But look at it from the side of a potential buyer.

1: Would you even commission me?
   Can you imagine if a doctor were to say that? If I were to open an office would you even come to me? That makes the doctor feel like a failure. Like he has so little faith in his ability to do his job he is afraid to do it. So he has to ask a thousand people IF he were to open an office would ANYONE come? Would you? Or would you want a doctor who just opens it and does his job and believes in his ability to treat you?
   Same with an artist. You sound like you have no faith in your ability. If you do not believe in it, how can anyone else?
   If you want to offer commissions, offer them. Do not ask if you should, announce you have.

2: How much would you pay?
   This is an awful question. Let's imagine for a moment you go to a car dealer. The salesman comes out and says they have a brand new Aston Martin, a car that is like $200,000 or more. But the salesman is new and is not sure what the car is worth and asks you what you think is a fair price?
   Would you REALLY say, "This is a $200,000 car, plus markups." Would you say that to ensure the salesman made his commission and could pay for his debts and fees? Or would you see a chance to get an amazing car for dirt cheap? "Well, this car is a dull color, and look, not a lot of flash. So...maybe it's worth $2.000. But I could pay you $1,200 if you could add a few things."
   While a few may be truthful, most would use this chance to get something as close to free as possible. There would even be a few who would tell this salesman that the car is not really worth anything, but he still wanted it, so he should get it free and he would tell his friends to come here for more cars.
   Do you see how foolish it is to ask? You will only be told to do it free or very cheap, because human nature makes us try to get the most we can for the least amount.

   Something I learned early when I published my own comics, NO ONE will tell you that you matter. YOU have to tell them you matter. Same with commissions. No one will tell you when your art has worth. You have to tell them it has worth. What in your art has worth?

1: Your time.
   It takes you a few hours or a few days or weeks. All that time working on the art is time away from friends, loved ones, hobbies, entertainment, practice, even sleep. Does the loss of all that have no value?

2: Your material.
   I assume you use something to create art. Paper, pencils, lens, inks, paint, canvas, markers, computer, tablet, stylus, software etc. You had to pay for that material, right? That had worth when you bought it, should it not have value to the one buying your work on it?

3: Your skill.
   If you are up to the level someone wants your art, then you probably have spent thousands of hours on your art getting here. Like a surgeon, the more he does the better he is, the more specialized he is, the more he can charge because his SKILL puts him in demand.

4: Your community.
   Look out for your fellow artist. If you come out and offer dirt cheap art, you are undercutting all other artists. Cheap commissioners will see an artist charging $200 for a commission and you, who think you have no worth, charge $5. You make the artist trying to make a living look greedy. The commissioner comes back to the first artist and says, "I can get the same thing here for $5!" Do you think he will buy yours? Not always. He will use it to try to talk the first artist's prices down. If that fails, then maybe he will come back to you. But he will offer less than $5. It is better to work free than cheap. But free is a waste for you, unless you are doing free art for a dear friend, family, or for a charity.

   So, what should you do? Look at your art and be honest, how good is it? There are 3 levels.

1: Beginner. You have a decent grasp on basic art. But you have more to learn. Then you should charge no less than $20 for a full color single character with a basic background.

2: Mid level. You have a solid grasp on art. But you are not quite to the 'pro' level yet. Then you should charge no less than $40 for a full color single character with a basic background.

3: Advanced. You have a strong grasp on art. But you have not gone pro. Then you should charge no less than $60 for a full color single character with a basic background.

   That is just a very basic note. You are the one who sets your price. If you think your art is worth more or less, you can slide it. And if you are a pro artist, you should charge more, because now your name and place adds value.

   If you HONESTLY cannot justify charging that much for your art then maybe you are not ready yet. Commissions are not to be done lightly. This is a business. If you want to do them, treat it as such. For your benefit and the art community.

   So if you are ready for this what should you do?

1: Create a price list. This is your prices, cover as much as you can, but do not make it too complex. Keep it clear and simple. If the buyer has to do mental gymnastics to get a price on their request they will walk away.

2: Announce everywhere you can that you are doing it. Keep it simple. Say it in a proud way, with confidence and pride.

3: Be ready to wait. Really. When you begin to offer commissions there will not be a crowd of buyers running up to you, waving money. There will be stretches of time where no one wants a commission. Why? Because of the people doing them free or dirt cheap. (See?) And sometimes people do not have the money. So wait. What can you do to speed it up? Offer a sale from time to time. Limit the number of slots. And promote it.

4: Promote! Go to clubs, groups, etc and announce you are going commissions. People LOVE their Original Characters drawn. Let them know you are doing just that.

5: Get out. Set up at the local mall or shopping center (after you get approval) and do sketches. Go to a theater where they are showing a comic book, sci-fi, horror, any cult follow level movie and do sketches to people who just saw the film.

   So there we go. Sorry this became more long winded than I planned. But I want all artists to succeed. And only by standing together and making sure we are getting what we deserve, can we do that. So go forth and do art!

Dwayne

Last Day to Shop deviantART Gear

Tue May 21, 2013, 6:58 PM

It is now official. The deviantART T-Shirts & Gear Shop will celebrate its very last day on Tuesday, May 28, 2013. 

We can't thank you enough for the outpouring of support we've received over the past several weeks and even more so over the last eight years.  


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I did not expect this at all haha.. 
I came on just now to read through comments and aha saw some congratulations on the DD for this image...


I was like "Wait whatttt youu all must be mistaken--!!"

But gosh wow haha this really made my day!! I had no expectations for this but wow I don't even know what to say :love:

Huge thank you to ^ValaSedai for choosing/featuring it! :D

^-^ //screams as much as I can scream mentally in class//



    Thank you all though for the support ever since I joined dA ;u; It's been one of my major steps in learning what I wanted to do for a living and how to pursue it. I've picked up so much from all the artists here and although many may say the community has flaws or that the website bugs are truly annoying, I find this something I still check in everyday to see what I can learn from others and teach as well ^-^

So haha thank you all :D
May everyone have a lovely day x3

-Capu :heart:



Ohh psssstt, I know there's been a lot of eager people expecting commission slots haha; no worries! I'm just working on my website because I plan on using that for my next round of commissions! I haven't published a lot of the changes yet, but you can expect that sometime in the next few weeks which means...commissions /and summer/ are just around the corner :D

:la:



OH and um I have about 125 comments atm on the 'Overpricing' journal to reply to but I will get to them all in time :dummy: Thanks for all the feedback though! 
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